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		<title>By: Allison</title>
		<link>http://www.jewinthecity.com/2008/07/what-are-the-chances-no-really-what-are-they/comment-page-1/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 05:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Glad to be of service, Olivia! &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to be of service, Olivia! </p>
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		<title>By: Olivia</title>
		<link>http://www.jewinthecity.com/2008/07/what-are-the-chances-no-really-what-are-they/comment-page-1/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 19:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;1. Yep, same article.  &lt;br /&gt;
2.  I think you&#039;re doing an admirable job at both of your goals.  As a potential &quot;re-masterer&quot; (or full-out convert, depending on which Rabbi you ask) myself, your writing has both toned down the scare-factor and tipped me off to resources that I&#039;ve been happy to have in this exploration, as a clear head and clear eyes would hopefully help me avoid situations like the ones that the family in the article has suffered through. So..Thank you. &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Yep, same article.  <br />
2.  I think you&#8217;re doing an admirable job at both of your goals.  As a potential &#8220;re-masterer&#8221; (or full-out convert, depending on which Rabbi you ask) myself, your writing has both toned down the scare-factor and tipped me off to resources that I&#8217;ve been happy to have in this exploration, as a clear head and clear eyes would hopefully help me avoid situations like the ones that the family in the article has suffered through. So..Thank you. </p>
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		<title>By: Allison</title>
		<link>http://www.jewinthecity.com/2008/07/what-are-the-chances-no-really-what-are-they/comment-page-1/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 18:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Olivia-&lt;br /&gt;
You probably did read the article I was referring to and yes, you&#039;re right, I did deliberately leave out anything identifying as to not give it even more publicity. For anyone who knows about it, this is my short take on it: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The girl being interviewed, was unfortunately the product of a lot of family issues. Her mom, like me, became religious on her own, but it should be noted that she also joined like the most extreme right-wing group of Orthodox Jews out there, something that most ba&#039;alei teshuvah (pple that become religious) do not do.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The woman being interviewed was also a product of divorce, had her mother run away with her and her siblings at one point, only to turn around and join the community again. Clearly and sadly lots of issues. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, there are some points touched upon in the article that I simply can&#039;t speak about because I&#039;m not part of this Chasidic community and therefore even though I&#039;m a totally religious Orthodox Jew myself, some of these community practices (which I&#039;d like to stress are community practices and NOT Jewish law)are completely foreign to me. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In other cases, the woman being interviewed mentions aspects of Jewish law that all observant Jews practice, but she puts them in such a negative light that I cringed as I was reading about them. (As with many things in life, there are positive ways to understand them, and negative ways. Every aspect of Jewish law mentioned in that article was given the absolute worst spin possible.)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can&#039;t undo what is going on in that community or the way it has been portrayed, but my goal with my Jew in the City campaign is to  A) be able to put things into my own words (something the members of this Chassidic community were not given the chance to do)  and  B)try to show that it is possible to be fully committed to Jewish law and a Torah lifestyle without being extreme or judgmental - something that unfortunately some of the Orthodox Jews that make the news have not managed to achieve.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Olivia-<br />
You probably did read the article I was referring to and yes, you&#8217;re right, I did deliberately leave out anything identifying as to not give it even more publicity. For anyone who knows about it, this is my short take on it: </p>
<p>The girl being interviewed, was unfortunately the product of a lot of family issues. Her mom, like me, became religious on her own, but it should be noted that she also joined like the most extreme right-wing group of Orthodox Jews out there, something that most ba&#8217;alei teshuvah (pple that become religious) do not do.</p>
<p>The woman being interviewed was also a product of divorce, had her mother run away with her and her siblings at one point, only to turn around and join the community again. Clearly and sadly lots of issues. </p>
<p>Also, there are some points touched upon in the article that I simply can&#8217;t speak about because I&#8217;m not part of this Chasidic community and therefore even though I&#8217;m a totally religious Orthodox Jew myself, some of these community practices (which I&#8217;d like to stress are community practices and NOT Jewish law)are completely foreign to me. </p>
<p>In other cases, the woman being interviewed mentions aspects of Jewish law that all observant Jews practice, but she puts them in such a negative light that I cringed as I was reading about them. (As with many things in life, there are positive ways to understand them, and negative ways. Every aspect of Jewish law mentioned in that article was given the absolute worst spin possible.)</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t undo what is going on in that community or the way it has been portrayed, but my goal with my Jew in the City campaign is to  A) be able to put things into my own words (something the members of this Chassidic community were not given the chance to do)  and  B)try to show that it is possible to be fully committed to Jewish law and a Torah lifestyle without being extreme or judgmental &#8211; something that unfortunately some of the Orthodox Jews that make the news have not managed to achieve.</p>
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		<title>By: Olivia</title>
		<link>http://www.jewinthecity.com/2008/07/what-are-the-chances-no-really-what-are-they/comment-page-1/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 17:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I assume you deliberately did not use the name of the article, magazine, or any other identifying details to not give said magazine publicity that you deemed negative. On the other hand, I&#039;m pretty sure I read the article in question, and I would very much like to hear a different take on what went down with that family, since the reporting presents such a cut-and-dried picture (I lack the Judaism-expertise to read between the lines of the depiction of that community).  Is such a post in the works? Maybe by popular demand? :D &lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume you deliberately did not use the name of the article, magazine, or any other identifying details to not give said magazine publicity that you deemed negative. On the other hand, I&#8217;m pretty sure I read the article in question, and I would very much like to hear a different take on what went down with that family, since the reporting presents such a cut-and-dried picture (I lack the Judaism-expertise to read between the lines of the depiction of that community).  Is such a post in the works? Maybe by popular demand? <img src='http://www.jewinthecity.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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		<title>By: Allison</title>
		<link>http://www.jewinthecity.com/2008/07/what-are-the-chances-no-really-what-are-they/comment-page-1/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK, just to clear things up and not have this turn into an all out statistics battle, the purpose of my asking my brother-in-law to put what happened into mathematical terms was just to get a feel for how it looked in numbers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Statistics being flexible or not, the fact that a stranger, in a far away place, sent me an email about an article (that got to me in an unusual way) the moment I had finished reading it was downright weird no matter what the probabilities show.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;For me, the most important thing to do at a time like that is to ask oneself &quot;are there any greater implications here?&quot; How could it be that there are times that a person thinks of an old friend, whom he hasn&#039;t spoken to in years, and then gets a call from that very same friend the next day? Is there some sort of interconnectivity in the universe, and is that force, perhaps God?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, just to clear things up and not have this turn into an all out statistics battle, the purpose of my asking my brother-in-law to put what happened into mathematical terms was just to get a feel for how it looked in numbers.</p>
<p>Statistics being flexible or not, the fact that a stranger, in a far away place, sent me an email about an article (that got to me in an unusual way) the moment I had finished reading it was downright weird no matter what the probabilities show.</p>
<p>For me, the most important thing to do at a time like that is to ask oneself &#8220;are there any greater implications here?&#8221; How could it be that there are times that a person thinks of an old friend, whom he hasn&#8217;t spoken to in years, and then gets a call from that very same friend the next day? Is there some sort of interconnectivity in the universe, and is that force, perhaps God?</p>
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		<title>By: Howard...the brother-in-law</title>
		<link>http://www.jewinthecity.com/2008/07/what-are-the-chances-no-really-what-are-they/comment-page-1/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard...the brother-in-law</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Unlike the lottery, there aren&#039;t millions of people this could happen to, but the odds are similar. The only &#039;players&#039;, though, are those who had recently written a relevant article that Allison&#039;s E-mailer had seen. Suppose this is a group of, I dunno, 30? Then, assuming these 30 people all have similar chances of having seen the article, the overall odds of at least one having seen it are still astronomical.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Imagine only 30 people bought a lottery ticket every week, but another 50 million, just for fun, wrote down what they thought would be the winning numbers. Assuming that the right numbers were guessed, the odds of it being by one of the 30 paid ticket holders is only about 1 in 1.6 million. It could take a long long time before there was a real pay out...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This argument can go back and forth. Statistics can be used to prove anything you want really. It&#039;s really just how you look at it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike the lottery, there aren&#8217;t millions of people this could happen to, but the odds are similar. The only &#8216;players&#8217;, though, are those who had recently written a relevant article that Allison&#8217;s E-mailer had seen. Suppose this is a group of, I dunno, 30? Then, assuming these 30 people all have similar chances of having seen the article, the overall odds of at least one having seen it are still astronomical.</p>
<p>Imagine only 30 people bought a lottery ticket every week, but another 50 million, just for fun, wrote down what they thought would be the winning numbers. Assuming that the right numbers were guessed, the odds of it being by one of the 30 paid ticket holders is only about 1 in 1.6 million. It could take a long long time before there was a real pay out&#8230;</p>
<p>This argument can go back and forth. Statistics can be used to prove anything you want really. It&#8217;s really just how you look at it.</p>
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		<title>By: sharona</title>
		<link>http://www.jewinthecity.com/2008/07/what-are-the-chances-no-really-what-are-they/comment-page-1/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>sharona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;great story!  I agree what you said at the end about belief and free will.  I think that reason why almost every argument has a counter argument is so we still have free will and can choose whether or not to believe. &lt;br /&gt;
G-d doesn&#039;t want to force it on us, he wants it to be our choice. And if we are willing to, and seek G-d out, we&#039;ll find him&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great story!  I agree what you said at the end about belief and free will.  I think that reason why almost every argument has a counter argument is so we still have free will and can choose whether or not to believe. <br />
G-d doesn&#8217;t want to force it on us, he wants it to be our choice. And if we are willing to, and seek G-d out, we&#8217;ll find him</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.jewinthecity.com/2008/07/what-are-the-chances-no-really-what-are-they/comment-page-1/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Without taking away from your larger point, that&#039;s really a misuse of statistics. The number seems impressive when it&#039;s out of context like that, but when you figure in how many days that DOESN&#039;T happen and multiply it by how many people it could happen to, but doesn&#039;t, the odds aren&#039;t as great. Look at it like a lottery. The odds are astronomical against any specific person winning, yet people keep winning the lottery.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without taking away from your larger point, that&#8217;s really a misuse of statistics. The number seems impressive when it&#8217;s out of context like that, but when you figure in how many days that DOESN&#8217;T happen and multiply it by how many people it could happen to, but doesn&#8217;t, the odds aren&#8217;t as great. Look at it like a lottery. The odds are astronomical against any specific person winning, yet people keep winning the lottery.</p>
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